Hell

[zadokpriest]

I do not believe that this was a dream - more or less an encounter.

In this vision or dream or encounter - this angel took my spirit to hell. We where flying straight down.

The walls where rocky orange/red with brown mud. They where hot although i did not feel anything and no harm was done to me.

I saw pits/caves with peoples name on them. Hell is waiting for these people to come down there - it's like they are expecting them.


After that I woke up.


Zadok

[Missyjojo88]

That gave me goosebumps. I wouldn't be surprise that there are sections in hell prepared for a specific person; just like in heaven there are many mansions being prepared for all who are saved. Those caves would be the mansions of hell so to speak.

That reminds of me of a dream that I had where there was a computer in the office of this spiritual school that I was attending, which had the pictures and names of pastors who were going to hell. After talking to God or the Holy Spirit about my grades, he left me alone in the office. The computer was opened so I clicked on it, and to my surprise I saw the title "Pastors going to Hell" with the first photo of a pastor and his name. I was shocked by what I was seen that I chicken out in the dream. I did not continue to look at the other photos of pastors. I was surprise at the fact that I was giving access to this information. I believe that I could have looked through it some more if I wanted, but I was too weird out by the fact that this information was made available to me. It was like I was fearful for these pastors. It was too much information for me personally.

[Lillian]

You know what I thought as I was reading Zadok's and Missy's post?

How comfortable are we with people going to hell?

[sisterlady]

You know what I thought as I was reading Zadok's and Missy's post?

How comfortable are we with people going to hell?

My thoughts as well. I know that I have some angst about all of the time that I was unsaved and worked and went to school with people who attende church regularly who never bothered to tell me about Jesus, salvation or share the gospel with me. All I got was cold condescension for being a non-church attending lost soul. Noone tried to help me. I have been saved for some years now, but this thought occurred to me recently and I was both angered and saddened by it. I resolved not to do repeat their behaviour.

[RevK]

Hell is real, very real!! But it seems to be a very controversial subject. What we need to understand is that even though some may not believe in such a place of torment, it indeed exists.

Hell-Hades-Shoel

*Naves Topical Bible*
# (In the KJV this word occurs in O. T. Scriptures, cited below, and is the translation of the Hebrew word "sheol," which signifies the unseen state)

# In the RSV of O. T. it appears only in
Isaiah 5:14; 14:9,15; 28:15,18; 57:9; Ezekiel 31:16,17; 32:21,27; Amos 9:2; Jonah 2:2; Habakkuk 2:5

# In the RSV, "sheol" is translated "lowest pit"
Deuteronomy 32:22; Psalms 86:13

# And it is translated "pit" in
Psalms 55:15

# In the RSV the word "Sheol" itself occurs in the following Scriptures 2 Samuel 22:6; Job 11:8; 26:6; Psalms 9:17; 16:10; 18:5; 116:3; 139:8; Proverbs 5:5; 7:27; 9:18; 15:11,24; 23:14; 27:20

# "Sheol" is translated "grave" in KJV in Genesis 37:35; 42:38; 44:29,31; 1 Samuel 2:6; 1 Kings 2:6; 9; Job 7:9; 14:13; 17:13; 21:13; 24:19; Psalms 6:5; 30:3; 31:17; 49:14,15; 88:3; 89:48; 141:7; Proverbs 1:12; 30:16; Ecclesiastes 9:10; Solomon 8:6; Hosea 13:14

# In the RSV the Greek word "gehenna" is translated "hell" in The following scriptures Matthew 5:22,29,30; 10:28; 18:9; 23:15,33; Mark 9:43,45,47; Luke 12:5; James 3:6

# The RSV has introduced "Hades," the word found in the Greek Text, which signifies the unseen world, in the following Scriptures
Matthew 11:23; 16:18; Luke 10:15; 16:23; Acts 2:27,31; Revelation 1:18; 6:8; 20:13,14

# THE FUTURE HOME OF THE WICKED
Psalms 9:17; Proverbs 5:5; 9:13,15-18; 15:24; 23:13,14; Isaiah 30:33; 33:14; Matthew 3:12; 5:29,30; 7:13,14; 8:11,12; 10:28; 13:30,38-42,49,50; 16:18; 18:8,9,34,35; 22:13; 25:28-30,41,46; Mark 9:43-48; Luke 3:17; 16:23-26,28; Acts 1:25; 2 Thessalonians 1:9; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 1:6-23; Revelation 2:11; 9:1,2; 11:7; 14:10,11; 19:20; 20:10,15; 21:8
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there are sections in hell prepared for a specific person; just like in heaven there are many mansions being prepared for all who are saved. Those caves would be the mansions of hell so to speak

Indeed there are sections in hell. God has allowed a few people to see portions of what is prepared for those who will spend eternity there. I personally saw hell. Its' appearance was that of a corkscrew, the worst of sinners were at the bottom of the spiral. There are structures in hell, afterall, it is his kingdom.

Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. 16 They that see thee shall narrowly look upon thee, and consider thee, saying, Is this the man that made the earth to tremble, that did shake kingdoms;

He mimics everything God does, afterall, He said He would be like the Most High. His unholy trinity, beast, devil and anti-christ including his angelic hierarchy: demons, imps etc. Eph 6:12 - For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.

Meridith Kay Baxter wrote about hell if you would like to read more about the place of torment. It is not a place you want to go to.

That reminds of me of a dream that I had where there was a computer in the office of this spiritual school that I was attending, which had the pictures and names of pastors who were going to hell. After talking to God or the Holy Spirit about my grades, he left me alone in the office. The computer was opened so I clicked on it, and to my surprise I saw the title "Pastors going to Hell" with the first photo of a pastor and his name. I was shocked by what I was seen that I chicken out in the dream. I did not continue to look at the other photos of pastors. I was surprise at the fact that I was giving access to this information. I believe that I could have looked through it some more if I wanted, but I was too weird out by the fact that this information was made available to me. It was like I was fearful for these pastors. It was too much information for me personally.

Missy Joe-I would not take this dream lightly. Perhaps Holy Spirit wants you to begin to intercede for ministers/preachers etc. Despite what it may look like on the pulpit, ministers have a rough life, a fishbowl existence. They face many problems a regular layperson does not.

There are Bishops, Apostles,Prophets,Teachers, and Evangelists in hell even now as you read this. They cry out in agony because of the life they led. Perhaps you are called to be a "repairer of the breach'...Isa 58:12 - And they that shall be of thee shall build the old waste places: thou shalt raise up the foundations of many generations; and thou shalt be called, The repairer of the breach, The restorer of paths to dwell in. Suffice to say, there are many many hurting people of God, waiting on someone to encourage them because they have no one to encourage them. Who will lift up their arms, who will be their strength? So some, just give up for whatever reason. We have so many wounded dying soldiers of the Gospel, praying, fasting, for help, yet seemingly it does not come. Who will encourage them?

1 Corinthians 2:9 But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him. 10 But God hath revealed them unto us by his Spirit: for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God. 12 Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the spirit which is of God; that we might know the things that are freely given to us of God. 13 Which things also we speak, not in the words which man's wisdom teacheth, but which the Holy Ghost teacheth; comparing spiritual things with spiritual. 14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. 15 But he that is spiritual judgeth all things, yet he himself is judged of no man. 16 For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? But we have the mind of Christ.

Romans 10:1-11 - 1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. 4 For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth. 5 For Moses describeth the righteousness which is of the law, That the man which doeth those things shall live by them. 6 But the righteousness which is of faith speaketh on this wise, Say not in thine heart, Who shall ascend into heaven? (that is, to bring Christ down from above:) 7 Or, Who shall descend into the deep? (that is, to bring up Christ again from the dead.) 8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach; 9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. 10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation. 11 For the scripture saith, Whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

De 30:19 - I call heaven and earth to record this day against you, that I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing: therefore choose life, that both thou and thy seed may live:

[Lillian]

Amen RevK.

That is exactly the sentiment I felt. I think these days there is so much negativity associated with leadership and while some is warranted I do believe leadership in the body is in need of much of the encouragement you speak of.

Bless you.

[Manassehs_Warrior]

There are Bishops, Apostles,Prophets,Teachers, and Evangelists in hell even now as you read this

If they were saved, and Spirit-filled, why are they in Hell?

[RevK]

There are Bishops, Apostles,Prophets,Teachers, and Evangelists in hell even now as you read this If they were saved, and Spirit-filled, why are they in Hell?

They are in hell because they were/are unjust stewards. These were concerned with what they could get (fleecing of the saints) and only cared about themselves. They had hidden agendas and were not Spirit-led. Please read the following scriptures.

Jer 2:8 - The priests said not, Where is the LORD? and they that handle the law knew me not: the pastors also transgressed against me, and the prophets prophesied by Baal, and walked after things that do not profit.

Ezekiel 34:17-31 -17 And as for you, O my flock, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I judge between cattle F162 and cattle, between the rams and the he goats. 18 Seemeth it a small thing unto you to have eaten up the good pasture, but ye must tread down with your feet the residue of your pastures? and to have drunk of the deep waters, but ye must foul the residue with your feet? 19 And as for my flock, they eat that which ye have trodden with your feet; and they drink that which ye have fouled with your feet. 20 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD unto them; Behold, I, even I, will judge between the fat cattle and between the lean cattle. 21 Because ye have thrust with side and with shoulder, and pushed all the diseased with your horns, till ye have scattered them abroad; 22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle. 23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. 24 And I the LORD will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the LORD have spoken it. 25 And I will make with them a covenant of peace, and will cause the evil beasts to cease out of the land: and they shall dwell safely in the wilderness, and sleep in the woods. 26 And I will make them and the places round about my hill a blessing; and I will cause the shower to come down in his season; there shall be showers of blessing. 27 And the tree of the field shall yield her fruit, and the earth shall yield her increase, and they shall be safe in their land, and shall know that I am the LORD, when I have broken the bands of their yoke, and delivered them out of the hand of those that served themselves of them. 28 And they shall no more be a prey to the heathen, neither shall the beast of the land devour them; but they shall dwell safely, and none shall make them afraid. 29 And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, F163 and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. 30 Thus shall they know that I the LORD their God am with them, and that they, even the house of Israel, are my people, saith the Lord GOD. 31 And ye my flock, the flock of my pasture, are men, and I am your God, saith the Lord GOD.

James 5:1-11 1 Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you. 2 Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten. 3 Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days. 4 Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth. 5 Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter. 6 Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you. 7 Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain. 8 Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh. 9 Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door. 10 Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience. 11 Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.

Jer 3:15 - And I will give you pastors according to mine heart, which shall feed you with knowledge and understanding.

God's true shepherds (pastors) care about their sheep, and not their money. They are fed with knowledge and understanding. Those who came otherwise were/are known as hirelings.

Jer 10:21 - For the pastors are become brutish, and have not sought the LORD: therefore they shall not prosper, and all their flocks shall be scattered.

Jer 12:10 - Many pastors have destroyed my vineyard, they have trodden my portion under foot, they have made my pleasant portion a desolate wilderness.

Jer 23:1 - Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD.

Jer 23:2 - Therefore thus saith the LORD God of Israel against the pastors that feed my people; Ye have scattered my flock, and driven them away, and have not visited them: behold, I will visit upon you the evil of your doings, saith the LORD.

[Lillian]

This is also applicable, Jesus Himself says:


Matthew 7:21 "Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.
Matthew 7:22 On that day many will say to me, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and cast out demons in your name, and do many mighty works in your name?'
Matthew 7:23 And then will I declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.'

These people He is talking about are not everyday sinners.
Unbelievers don't lay hands on the sick, unbelievers don't cast out demons.

How could He say I never knew you?
Because for these people it was all about ministry (in some cases) and they forgot about Jesus, Just like the Ephesian church in the book of Revelation. There may be other things, but this is how I have seen it. In Revelation Jesus is telling them to repent.

And unless they repent they are going to hell.

[RevK]

Oh Jesus!

Isaiah 52:1-6 - 1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean. 2 Shake thyself from the dust; arise, and sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion. 3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money. 4 For thus saith the Lord GOD, My people went down aforetime into Egypt to sojourn there; and the Assyrian oppressed them without cause. 5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day is blasphemed. 6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore they shall know in that day that I am he that doth speak: behold, it is I.

[Imani863]

Praise the Lord!!~~ Perhaps seeing too much of Yahweh's judgement of ministers and , (especially), having their identities revealed to you caught you off guard. I believe as the Word says, 'He will put no more on you than you can bear,' so even though you could not bear it then, when you are He might just show you again. What gift He has blessed you with. There is nothing better to me than being close enough to Him for Him to share with you by revelations. Thanks, for sharing.

[zadokpriest]

Thank you ALL for sharing! I had no idea that this thread would go in this direction - but thank you for your balance response - yes leadership needs to be encouraged and we are COMMISSIONED by God to pray for those in authority. However at the same time we should not blindly follow those who are not following Christ or those who motive for following Christ are wrong. Keep them in prayer BUT do not do what they do.

Thank you ALL again for sharing - this really is very timely in more ways than one.

Much Love!

Zadok

[zadokpriest]

Just wanted to add these scriptures to this:

Ezekiel 34:1-12

1.And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying ,
2.Son of man, prophesy against the shepherds of Israel, prophesy , and say unto them, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto the shepherds ; Woe be to the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the flocks?
3.Ye eat the fat, and ye clothe you with the wool, ye kill them that are fed: but ye feed not the flock.
4.The diseased have ye not strengthened , neither have ye healed that which was sick , neither have ye bound up that which was broken , neither have ye brought again that which was driven away , neither have ye sought that which was lost ; but with force and with cruelty have ye ruled them.
5.And they were scattered , because there is no shepherd : and they became meat to all the beasts of the field, when they were scattered .
6.My sheep wandered through all the mountains, and upon every high hill: yea, my flock was scattered upon all the face of the earth, and none did search or seek after them.
7.Therefore, ye shepherds , hear the word of the LORD;
8.As I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely because my flock became a prey, and my flock became meat to every beast of the field, because there was no shepherd , neither did my shepherds search for my flock, but the shepherds fed themselves, and fed not my flock;
9.Therefore, O ye shepherds , hear the word of the LORD;
10.Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against the shepherds ; and I will require my flock at their hand, and cause them to cease from feeding the flock; neither shall the shepherds feed themselves any more; for I will deliver my flock from their mouth, that they may not be meat for them.
11.For thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I, even I, will both search my sheep, and seek them out .
12.As a shepherd seeketh out his flock in the day that he is among his sheep that are scattered ; so will I seek out my sheep, and will deliver them out of all places where they have been scattered in the cloudy and dark day.

[Lillian]

Amen Zadok!

100%

At times I have read that scripture with tears in my eyes for those who follow blindly.

In my heart, I'm saying WAKE UP! WAKE UP! READ THE WORD!

and at times I try to grasp the understanding of those shepherds, why? why are you being so selfish, what word are you reading?

Woe to you!

Then I remember Jesus when He was on the earth saying woe to you hypocrites!

And I learned it is a woe! but it is a: WOE TO YOU, TURN AROUND OR YOU"RE GOING TO CRASH!!!!!

Bless the Lord for His mercy and His righteous judgments.

Bless you.

[shesthedreamer]

Missy Jo I hope you have been praying for this pastor, not sure if you caught Rev K's message which I agree with but it was far down in his post. Pray for the unsaved people, everyone at the office, in your neighborhood, in public office.